VAZ 2107 seat belt does not extend


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I couldn’t find it by searching, I couldn’t find it in the FAQ either.

The problem is this: when disassembling the interior, all the seat belts were removed, they peacefully retracted into their reels almost completely and were placed on a shelf to await their time. During assembly, it turned out that they absolutely do not want to get out of these coils

Question: how is this treated? And the idea of ​​driving without them doesn’t impress me at all.

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Long Face I encountered this myself in the summer. I had to completely disassemble the mechanism of one belt in order to fit into the structure. I collected it for about two hours.

Now, based on the design, I will describe a way to solve the problem: you take the reel with the wound belt with one hand and orient it approximately in the same position as it is on the car, with the other hand you hold the belt itself. Gradually changing the position of the coil in space, lightly pull the belt. After 3-5 minutes you will find a position in which the reel will “unlock” and the belt will come out.

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It could be simpler. We take the coil and apply it to the place where it should be in the car. The belt will come out. If you didn’t get out, it means you weren’t from this place. Let's try it on the other side. This is especially true with the rear ones - I didn’t remove the front ones, I don’t know if there is a left-right difference there.

Having determined which belt is from where, we put them in their places and calmly pull out the belts.

Those. The idea is simple - it is known that when the belt is in its normal place, it is pulled out without question. So we are looking for a place where he behaves like this.

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Reg.: 02/17/2005 Messages: 52 From: Fryazino Age: 40 Car: VAZ-21213, born in 2000

Thanks everyone, I'll try it.

fanngorn I also started to disassemble, but the difficulty of disassembling showed with all my might that it would be worse in the opposite direction

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In general, this situation probably doesn’t happen very often. But, sometimes it does. When you pull, you pull the seat belt, but it somehow reluctantly comes out of the coils, or it even gets stuck and doesn’t want to come out.

Some, faced with such a situation, do it simpler: they drive without seat belts at all (without fastening) or jam the reels so that the belts do not need to be pulled out of the reels. However, even then. and other things are prohibited by traffic rules.

The repair is actually quite simple and quick.

Of course, the design of the mechanisms (reels) that issue seat belts is quite different, depending on the car. Here we will look at how to repair the belt feed mechanism of their reels using the example of the rear seat belt mechanisms of a NIVA car (VAZ-2121, VAZ-21213, etc.).

What does a jammed belt mean?

If the seat belt does not pull out of the installation socket, it is most likely jammed. To understand what this means, you first need to understand how it works. When the belt does not extend, this indicates a failure of the locking mechanism or that the belts were jammed as a result of an accident. But first, let's look at the principle of operation.

Vehicle seat belt

Inside the blocking device there is a sensitive element responsible directly for blocking, which is made in the form of a ball. This ball, moving through a system of levers, clings to the body of the coil gear. If the belt is retracted too quickly, the spool disc puts more force on the screw surface, thus blocking the ball.

If the lock is jammed and cannot be turned off, this means that over time the security mechanism has begun to function incorrectly.

In such cases, the strap does not retract and cannot be turned off in any way. In such cases, even an attempt to slowly latch the element may not help - it simply jams and no longer retracts, does not work.

Repair options

Troubleshooting measures directly depend on the cause of the breakdown:

  1. If you have successfully pulled out the belt, buckled it, but when you need to unfasten the belt does not return to its original position, the problem may lie in the spring. It often comes off due to prolonged use or under stress. It is necessary to disassemble the lining and reach the drum to install the spring in the correct position. If it is still there, you will have to change the drum.
  2. Dirt on the belt and in its fixation areas can also cause the belt to not return to its original position. This problem is most common with older cars. Just rinse the entire device and dry it thoroughly.
  3. If the device is jammed and the seat belt does not extend at all, the cause may also be the accumulation of dirt, but not on the belt, but directly in the mechanism. To fix the problem, use a special composition, which can be purchased at any auto supply store. Spray it as close to the mechanism as possible and try moving the tape a couple of times to develop the device. You can also disassemble the device yourself and clean it, but first pull out the tape to the end and secure it with improvised devices, which can be a clothespin or a paper clip.

Repair process

Now that we have dealt with the signals and reasons for blocking a fastened and unfastened seat belt, let’s move on to the repair process. Cleaning seat belts is one of the main tasks in this process, so we will consider this procedure separately. So, what should you do if you receive a signal that the lock is jammed? How can I clean it or turn it off? You will learn more about this below.

Tools

To disable the lock if a corresponding signal appears, the entire mechanism will need to be cleaned. To do this, you need to thoroughly prepare in advance and collect all the necessary tools. so what to prepare:

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Diagnostic device

If the seat belt does not extend, a high-quality auto scanner can show the cause of the breakdown. Experts recommend purchasing high-quality devices from trusted manufacturers. This will allow you to accurately determine the cause of the presented breakdown.

In addition, the auto scanner will be able to detect many other faults. Moreover, the program can be installed on a smartphone. The use of such devices will save money. There is no need to visit specialized services and perform expensive maintenance.

Having examined why the seat belt does not extend, you can replace or repair the mechanism yourself. In this case, you will not need to visit a service center and pay for expensive repairs of the presented system.

Diagnostic methods

Let's look at the procedure and methods for checking the condition of seat belts. For example, let's look at how to carry out diagnostics on a Ford Focus car.

Insufficient belt retraction

If the belt does not retract well, check how the decorative covers are installed to make sure they are not touching the belt tape. Also check to see if the belt is rubbing against the retractor. If this is the case, then loosen the fastening bolt and align the device so that the tape is in the middle.

Most cars have 2 front and 3 rear retractable seat belts. They are equipped with double protection by sensitive elements.

  1. Vehicle motion sensor – blocks the belt during braking, sharp turns, descents, and ascents.
  2. Belt movement sensor – blocks it when pulled sharply.

These systems must function properly. To check them, special control methods are used.

How to check a car motion sensor

There are two ways to test this sensor.

Coil repair

Most often performed in the coil area. To get to it, you need to remove the side panel trim. It can be fixed with clips or bolts.

To comply with safety regulations, it is necessary to remove the terminal for the negative conductor from the battery. Contacts that lead to (if possible) are also disconnected. The colors of the corresponding wires are specified in the operating instructions.

These simple steps will prevent the squib from accidentally firing. Otherwise, you may be injured during the repair process.

The coil housing needs to be opened. Most likely, the spring of the tape return mechanism has failed. This element can be replaced. It will be easier to get it out than to install it in its original place.

Installation of seat belts.

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Look under the back seat. If there are any on the racks, then they should be there even more so.

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General arrangement of belts on the left side

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General arrangement of belts on the left side

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On the right in the photo, the end of the belt runs along the arch of the wing, does that mean it is attached somewhere on the arch?

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the inertial block is simply screwed to the shelf, and where is the safety, it will vomit in the event of a serious impact, another small question is where the other end of the belt is screwed, sorry for the trouble.

The inertial block is not just screwed to the shelf, there is some kind of reinforced plate under the shelf, but this fastening is located closer to the side arch.

The second end of the inertial coil is attached as in photo 4

The latch (third point) is attached under the seat in photo 1.2 (right strap), the left strap is for the middle passenger (two-point belt)

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How to disassemble the system?

If the seat belt does not extend, you need to properly disassemble the system. On the lower trim of the door pillar (middle), 4 bolts are unscrewed. Next, the cover is carefully removed.

You need to prepare a paper clip. Now you can remove the belt. It is fixed to a special eyelet using a paper clip. After this, you can unscrew the bolt that holds the coil. To prevent the belt from twisting, it is secured with the same paper clip.

The coil can be easily removed. The locking mechanism is located on the side where the ball will ring. You can shake the device and easily determine the correct direction. The 4 pistons are unscrewed and the cover is removed in a horizontal position. This way you can get to the ratchet.

How to repair

After finding out the reasons for the malfunction of the seat belt reel, we will figure out how to repair it and what is needed for this. In this procedure, the main thing is to thoroughly clean the belts.

Required Tools

To resolve a malfunction of the seat belt buckle, the device will need to be cleaned. This will require certain tools and accessories.

  1. Short shaped screwdriver.
  2. A 17 mm wrench is better than a socket type.
  3. Flathead screwdriver.
  4. Clothes pin for office work.
  5. A syringe with a thin tube.
  6. Gasoline for lighters.
  7. A piece of polyethylene to protect the seats from dirt.
  8. A piece of steel wire.

What will be required for repairs?

For the reasons mentioned above, sometimes the seat belt does not extend. What to do ? Advice from experienced auto mechanics will help. First of all, you will have to disassemble the casing and remove the coil. In some models, you will have to dismantle the seats in the place where the breakdown occurred.

To do this, you need to prepare screwdrivers (flat and Phillips), and their diameter must be different. You should also purchase a multi-purpose lubricant. The seats must be protected from accidental contact with oil. You will also need napkins and wire.

Repairs can be simple or more complex. In some cases, you have to completely change the coil. For some machine models, you will need to prepare special tools. But repairing a seat belt yourself will help save quite a lot of money in the family budget.

Answers to frequently asked questions

How much can it cost to replace seat belts at a car service center?

Inexpensive, starting from a few hundred rubles.

What are the fines for not wearing seat belts?

Constantly growing. Now a traffic police officer has the right to fine you at least 1,000 rubles. In general, there are exceptions to this rule (those interested can look for high-profile court cases related to the ability to drive without a seat belt in Russia), but they are unlikely to apply to the majority of people. And why neglect your own safety if fixing the problem is not at all difficult?

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