How many volts should the generator produce?
In order for the car to work properly and not fail on the road, the car owner must constantly monitor the technical condition of his “four-wheeled friend,” while paying a lot of attention to the car generator.
If the unit fails, the battery will not be able to receive electrical recharging, and as a result, the car will work only from recharging the battery, the reserve of which will be enough for a short period of time. As soon as the battery supply is depleted, the engine will stop functioning and the car will simply stop, anywhere. In this case, the car owner will have to look for a lot of money to purchase a new generator, as well as to check and install it. But the process of monitoring technical serviceability, in which the most important thing is to monitor what voltage the VAZ-2110 generator should produce when driving, will help save money and know that the car will not let the owner down under any circumstances.
If you notice that the generator is working intermittently, then you need to check the functionality of the unit, especially since it is quite simple to carry out such a process yourself, taking into account the advice and recommendations of professionals in their field. However, before work, the car owner must familiarize himself with some rules that will help check the serviceability of the unit without damage.
Constant undercharging of the battery or its absolute discharge at the most inopportune moment is a headache for many car owners. One source of these problems may be the generator. But how to check it? Perhaps it's not his fault at all? Let's figure out together how much the generator must produce for the normal functioning of all car systems and maintaining the battery in a charged state.
It is traditionally believed that 13.5-14.5V should be supplied by the generator to the battery and this is absolutely enough to replenish the battery costs.
It is worth considering that using a battery with a higher power in a car than the manufacturer recommends also requires the installation of a more productive generating device.
It is necessary to take into account the load that the generator must withstand - it is calculated based on the maximum indicators of all electrical appliances and car systems.
Do not forget that the charging current from the energy-generating device will allow you to start the car in the cold season. In order to avoid problems with starting the car, we recommend purchasing generating equipment, the charge current of which will be approximately 10% of the capacity of the power source.
That is, a battery of 100 A/h requires a generator that can produce 10A. Please note that for many cars, 100 amp equipment will operate at its maximum capacity, because the power consumption of the automotive system is in the region of 80 amps. Therefore, the choice of a source generating energy must take into account both the battery capacity and network consumption.
The potential difference can be diagnosed in two ways - directly at the generating equipment and through the battery. The generator is directly connected to the power source with a thick wire, therefore, to check the level of potential difference, you can measure the voltage at the power source. To do this, you will need special devices - a voltmeter, multimeter or load plug.
The wires of the first measuring instruments are connected to the battery in any sequence. The plug must be connected to the battery terminals with strict observance of polarity. It is generally accepted that the normal voltage in the network should not be lower than 12 volts. At idle speed without turning on all the electrical appliances of the car, this indicator should be at the level of 13.5-14V. A drop in voltage values to 13.3-13.8 volts is considered acceptable.
At the same time, using conventional testing equipment, you can check the resistance of the generator elements - rotor, stator and diode bridge. Diagnostics of rotary equipment is carried out by its winding. It is necessary to connect the probes of the device with slip rings. If the multimeter gives readings from 2, 3 to 5.1 ohms, then this element is working. The current consumption of the winding should be within 3-4.5 amperes.
Its normal resistance is 0.2 Ohm. The diode bridge is checked by the presence or absence of resistance, the indicators do not matter. The only thing worth considering is that there should not be a zero dimension. Measurements are carried out in pairs - positive output and all plates on this side or minus and all elements.
We remind you that for normal charging of a car battery, the voltage supplied by the generator must be from 13.5 to 14 volts.
For correct operation of the car, it is necessary to regularly check the functionality of the car generator. If this unit fails, the battery will no longer receive main power. This state of affairs (when the car is “powered” only by the battery) leads to a rapid loss of power to the entire car.
Timely monitoring of the technical condition of the electrical source will allow you to avoid accidental failure of the element, saving your money and mental strength.
The breakdown of the power unit generating current is determined by one of the following signs:
- The light on the dashboard is constantly on (signal of insufficient current);
- The battery constantly runs out;
- electrical equipment malfunctions or does not work at all when the engine is turned on;
- burning smell from the engine compartment;
- the stator overheats;
- The NODE makes uncharacteristic sounds (for example, rustling).
How much does a generator produce: what to pay attention to
First of all, if there are problems with the battery, you need to check both the battery and the generator. Moreover, it often happens that the generator seems to be working normally, but the battery is not charged enough or the battery charge is high, which leads to the electrolyte boiling. In this case, it is important to determine how much charging from the generator goes to the battery. In other words, you need to know how to test the generator.
As for the main symptoms, the signs of a generator malfunction are as follows:
- the battery icon is lit on the panel;
- the battery does not charge or boils;
- headlights and sidelights shine dimly;
- noises, whistling or grinding noises have appeared in the generator area.
If no deviations from the norm are identified, you can proceed to measuring voltage and current. It is necessary to measure voltage, current, resistance. To take measurements, you should have a multimeter or voltmeter on hand (you can also use a load fork).
- So, normally the battery should receive 5-14.5V from the generator. This is the indicator that the generator is required to provide to the battery. If the generator charge is different, then this indicates problems with the unit.
To measure, you need to consider how to check the generator voltage on the battery. There are two ways to do this - you can measure it on the generator, and also through the battery. The fact is that the generator is directly connected to the battery and the potential difference can be measured directly on the battery.
The easiest way is to use a multimeter, which is connected to the battery in any order. If you use a load plug, it must be connected to the battery terminals, and the polarity is strictly observed.
- Another useful information may be how many amperes the generator supplies to the battery. In fact, this is the current strength, and on different cars it differs depending on the electrical consumers. In this case, the charging current must be such as to ensure the operation of the network and charge the battery.
To measure this indicator, it is necessary to create a load in the vehicle’s on-board network (turn on “heavy” energy consumers) after starting the internal combustion engine. After the engine is started and the consumers are turned off, the charging current is 6-10 amperes, then the figure decreases as the battery charges. If you turn on the dimensions, headlights, heated windows, seats, mirrors, then the charging current increases. If this does not happen, again, there is clearly a problem.
Let us also add that it would also be a good idea to check the resistance of the generator components (rotor, stator and diode bridge). As for the rotor, resistance is measured on the winding. Simply put, the multimeter probes are connected to the slip rings (readings from 2.3 to 5.1 Ohms will indicate that the element is working). If the winding consumes current between 3 and 4.5 amperes, then this is normal. The operating resistance should be 0.2 Ohm.
To check the diode bridge, it is necessary to determine whether resistance is present or absent, and the indicators themselves are not important. The main thing is that there are no “zero” indicators. You need to measure in pairs (plus and all the plates on this side / minus and all the plates on its side).
Step-by-step check of the car generator regulator
The basic rules used when checking the generator voltage are simple, but mandatory for all car owners without exception:
- Under no circumstances should the functionality of the generator be tested using a so-called spark, that is, using a short circuit;
- It is not allowed to connect the device to the generator terminal “ ”;
- Welding work cannot be carried out in the body of the car if the wires are connected to the battery and generator.
It is important to consider the following points when checking voltage:
- measurements are carried out using special instruments called a voltmeter and an ammeter;
- checking the valves of the device is permitted if the voltage does not exceed 12 V;
- If the voltage test requires replacement of the wiring, you need to select identical wires both in cross-section and in length.
Before starting the test, make sure that all connections are working properly and that the device belt tension is correct.
It is not difficult to check what voltage a VAZ-2110 car generator should produce if the test is carried out in stages, and the car owner takes into account the advice of experts:
- Initially, you need to start the car engine, selecting medium speed and turn on the headlights. The car should remain in this mode for about 20 minutes. The indicator, as mentioned earlier, is measured with a voltmeter, the measuring scale of which is from 0 to 15 V, or with an ammeter.
- The voltage between the generator input “ ” and the mass of the unit is determined. If the generator is working properly, the indicator on the device scale should not exceed 14.5 V. If the device data is higher or lower than the established norm, then most likely you will have to replace the failed regulator.
- You can measure the voltage in another way, in which a voltmeter is connected directly to the battery. However, the resulting indicator will be accurate only if the car wiring is completely intact.
- You can also check the voltage using a special lamp, which is located on the dashboard; it is called a “control device”. In the time interval between turning on the ignition and starting the engine, the control light should be on, which allows you to control the voltage of the generator. If, when starting the engine, the lamp goes out and does not light up again, this will indicate that the generator is operating normally, without interruptions.
In other circumstances, for example, when the warning light is bright while the engine is running, you should check the tension of the alternator belt or the serviceability of the entire charging circuit. In some cases, a burning lamp indicates a malfunction of the entire device, in which case it will have to be replaced.
As was already said earlier, the maximum voltage that the VAZ-2110 generator produces should not exceed 14.5 V and not fall below 13 V. Finding out on your own what this indicator is is quite simple, taking into account the above recommendations. But if questions or difficulties arise during the work, you can, at a time convenient for yourself, watch a video about testing the generator, which is carried out by professionals in their field.
The main sign of a malfunctioning energy source is interruptions in U (voltage). In this case, check the functionality of the system and figure out how much the car’s generator transmits to charge the battery.
When testing, follow the advice of experienced car owners:
- prepare a multimeter;
- check whether the fasteners are connected correctly;
- check the quality of the belt tension;
- valves should indicate a current of 12 Volts (V) and below;
- When changing wiring, observe the cross-section diameter (the original and new ones ideally match).
If the element in question has received significant mechanical damage, we recommend entrusting its analysis to experienced auto repair shop employees.
How long should the generator charge? The algorithm for working with a multimeter looks like this: measure U at the battery terminals with the engine not running (the norm is 12.5-12.7 V). Start only the engine and repeat the measurement without load “at idle”. How many volts are supplied to excite the generator? “Healthy” indicators are from 13.8 V to 14.5 V (with a current strength of 80 to 140 Amperes).
The next step is to give maximum load by connecting additional equipment (headlights, radio, heated windows, etc.). With a working unit, the values under load will be from 13.7 V to 14 V. A value below 13 V is considered critical.
If you don’t have a multimeter, there is another way to diagnose at idle speed: turn on the engine, load it a little (for example, with the headlights on), remove the “-” terminal from the battery (you need a 10 key). The car, like the headlights, works stably - EVERYTHING is in order. If the car stalls or the headlights are dim, you need to further understand the issue.
How much does the generator deliver to the battery? If the battery is overcharged, you will notice characteristic signs: white streaks are visible on top of the battery (the electrolyte has boiled away, a possible cause is a malfunction of the regulator relay). The test is performed using a multimeter. See the charge when the internal combustion engine is running:
- 14.5 V - 14.8 V - normal, relay is OK;
- 15 V - 15.2 V - overcharge, the relay needs to be replaced urgently.
This breakdown should not be neglected, because the system can fail at the most unfortunate moment.
To prevent the electric generator, check:
- contacts;
- connections;
- wiring;
- whether the wire is disconnected before welding;
- belt tension;
- indicator on the dashboard (when it lights up, you should react quickly);
- Rectifier (if you suspect a problem with it, disconnect the battery);
- operability of the electricity source (by shorting the “ground” to the output);
- protection of electricity from any liquids.
The battery and generator work in parallel, withstanding high loads of different types: short-term, long-term and permanent. If it is important to know the power of all consumers, add the sum of the peak power indicators of all systems to the value required to recharge the battery. For ease of calculation, below is a table with approximate loads of all types.
Charging voltage of a car battery from a generator
A properly charged battery is an indispensable condition for a comfortable ride. During the cold season, it is especially important that the battery ensures reliable starting of the car engine.
Modern cars, especially luxury cars, have a battery charging control unit that monitors the main parameters of the process. There are no such devices in budget category vehicles. Experienced drivers perform this task independently. Let's look at how to have the most complete control over the battery charging process.
Causes of battery charging failure
The main parameter in the battery charging process is the charge current. Many parameters depend on its value.
Capacity replenishment speed
There is an opinion that for normal battery charging, the charge current should be 10% of its capacity, i.e. with a battery capacity of 50 Amp*hours, the charging current will be 5 Amps. Under such conditions, a completely discharged battery will gain its capacity to its nominal value of 10 hours.
Imagine, you were turned on by the wires of another car in the winter, and in order to fully charge the car battery, you need to drive the car for 10 hours straight, that is, drive about five hundred kilometers.
It is believed that to replenish the battery charge to the nominal value, it is enough to drive 30 kilometers in a normal cycle, and in city traffic jams half that. That is, if your work is located more than 10 kilometers from home, this is enough not to worry about recharging the battery outside the car.
The case is different when work is close to home. You spent the capacity when starting the car, quickly drove to work, and then also home. After a week or two, your battery runs out. And not at all because there is something wrong with the car, it’s just the rhythm of the drive.
In this case, you should think about warming up the engine even in the warm season just to ensure that the battery is always charged.
Let's return to the charge current. If it is enough to drive a car 30 kilometers to fully charge the battery, and not 500, as in the example, therefore, the charging current of the car generator is not 5 Amperes, but much higher.
Battery life
The normal battery life is more than five years. Used cars imported from abroad have fully working seven- to nine-year-old batteries on board. There, however, the storage conditions for cars are different, and the temperature in winter is higher.
There are three reasons for the low durability of the battery: violation of the battery charging mode, the quality of the battery, the human factor, in other words, laziness.
Let's start with the first one. If the battery is not charged to full capacity all the time, the plates undergo a sulfation process. Sulfation, or the formation of lead sulfate on the plates, can be compared to a stomach ulcer in humans, only in humans it can be treated, but a battery ulcer is practically untreatable.
There are various methods of complete discharge-charge, charging with pulsed currents. Maybe there is some percentage recovery, but if the battery is completely dead, then alas...
The quality of the battery depends on the manufacturer. Modern technologies only affect the increase in battery capacity while reducing the size and weight, respectively, the amount of lead.
How to choose the best quality battery? If there are two different copies with the same capacity, starting current, cost, it is better to buy the one that is heavier, it has more lead, it will last longer.
About the human factor. The biggest mistake car owners make is parking the car in the fall with the battery until spring.
If the battery spends several months in a discharged, not even fully charged state, and even in the cold with a reduced electrolyte density, it is unlikely to survive until spring.
If you periodically use your car in winter, then regularly (a couple of times a week) you need to start the car and warm it up for at least fifteen minutes, checking the charging voltage.
If the car is not used in winter, it is better to remove the battery from the car, fully charge it and store it in a warm room, recharging it once a month.
During daily operation of the vehicle, it is necessary to regularly check the charging of the battery from the generator.
How to check battery charging from a generator
Checking the battery charging process is possible using the following methods:
- visual diagnostics;
- computer diagnostics;
- diagnostics using physical measuring instruments.
Visual control
Visual diagnostics can and should be done at least once a week.
In summer, it is imperative to monitor the electrolyte level either through the light or through the electrolyte filling holes. If the battery is maintenance-free, monitor the indicator window.
When the recharging process is underway (the charging current is too high, it is possible when the generator is faulty), the electrolyte boils away. This leads to an increase in acid concentration, corrosion of the plates, and an even greater increase in current and temperature.
Video - charging voltage of a car battery from a generator, leakage currents and other checks:
Such an avalanche-like process can destroy a battery in a couple of hours. Therefore, if you see any changes in the paint above the battery installation site, foreign deposits, or a change in the shade of the battery case near one of the cans or electrolyte refill caps, immediately determine the cause.
If the control window of the battery is not in the green zone during constant operation, it means that the charging process is disrupted.
The visual method also includes monitoring the “battery” light on the dashboard. If it does not light up when the ignition is turned on, or does not go out after starting the engine, or flickers depending on the engine speed, then the battery charging process is disrupted.
Another tip for visually checking the charging process. In the dark, pay attention to the brightness level of the low and high beams when changing engine speed. This is best done by lighting a white wall. If the brightness increases with increasing engine speed, it means that the voltage-current regulator in the generator is not working properly, you need to check the generator.
Computer diagnostics
Computer diagnostics of cars equipped with a battery charge controller will give a complete picture of the operation of the generator, charge control unit, and battery performance level.
But there are few such cars. Conventional computer diagnostics will provide information about the voltage of the on-board network. But it can also be obtained using a regular multimeter.
Diagnostics using devices
Experienced drivers remember that a garage tool always included a hydrometer and a load fork.
The battery hydrometer is used to measure the density of the electrolyte. Normal density is from 1.23 to 1.28 g/cm3. The lower the temperature, the higher the density must be, otherwise the battery will freeze and fail.
Using a load fork, you can identify a “rotten” can and repair it.
The most universal device for monitoring battery charging is a multimeter. How can I use it to check the battery charge?
First, before driving with a cold engine, measure the voltage at the battery. It must be at least 12.5 Volts. Turn on the ignition. Normally, the voltage will drop by 0.1 - 0.3 Volts, but still must be at least 12.4 Volts to start the engine.
Next we start the engine. Check the voltage on the battery. During normal battery charging, the voltage should be between 13.5 and 14.5 Volts.
If the voltage is higher, the battery is being recharged. This is possible in the following cases:
- the generator is faulty (voltage regulator, diode bridge, short circuit of the excitation winding);
- Lost battery capacity (aging, boiling, destruction of plates);
- violation in the battery charging control unit (if equipped).
If the voltage is less than 13.5 Volts, this indicates that the charge is weak, the generator voltage regulator is not working properly, and there may be problems with the wiring.
In the case when the voltage has not changed at all, on the contrary, it has decreased, it is necessary to check the generator or electrical wiring.
Using a multimeter you can measure the charge current. To do this, you need to disconnect the thick wire from the generator. Carefully insulate it (there are + batteries on it). Next, connect one multimeter probe to the free contact of the generator, the other to the positive of the battery.
Switch the multimeter to the “current measurement” mode to the 10 Ampere limit. Start the engine. The charging current will initially be large (more than 5 Amperes), then as the battery charges, it will decrease.
Checking the battery charge must be done at least once a month, and more often in winter. After all, at this time of year the safety of the driver and passengers depends on the proper operation of the battery.
Video - how to check battery charging from a generator:
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Troubleshooting
A lot depends on the operation of the VAZ 2110 generator. If it malfunctions, what can start the battery? And when it stops providing the required voltage, you have to urgently figure out what the reason is. But just by external signs you can determine that the generator is creating problems:
- The charging light starts flashing at low speeds;
- there may be a burning smell in the cabin;
- there are mechanical damages.
If a visual inspection does not bring results, you must:
- remove the plastic cover from the generator;
- check all electrical connections;
- Unscrew the diode bridge, as well as the voltage regulator relay with brushes.
Diodes are checked with a special tester. When they operate normally, the current will only flow in one direction. If the current flows in two directions or the diodes do not pass it at all, then the reason has been found.
The cause of poor performance may be the belt. If it is worn out, it can be seen immediately. If the generator winding “flies”, it is better to entrust the solution to this problem to a specialist.
What to do if the VAZ-2110 generator produces little charge?
The generator represents the main force of a single mechanism (car), which functions artificially. It converts mechanical energy into electricity. If the generator of a VAZ-2110 car stops producing a charge, you should immediately begin to identify the problems that caused this. In the worst case scenario, all electrical equipment will be left without power. In this case, the battery will completely lose its charge and become inoperative. It is worth noting that, receiving proper power, it will not require additional charging, which is carried out by additional devices. The battery will then last for several months or years. It is noteworthy that it replenishes its reserves due to the full operation of the generator.
Signs of a generator malfunction
What could be the problem with the generator when, when you turn on the ignition, the light flashes or does not turn on at all and the control devices do not function? You should check to see if the fuse located in the mounting block is ok. If there is a break in the power supply, the following may occur:
- the “O” wire with the wires from the mounting block to the devices is broken;
- there was a breakdown of the “GP” wire with the wires from the ignition switch to this unit.
If the battery is discharged, the generator voltage will not give the desired figure.
And the reason may lie in the fact that the control lamp has burned out, or perhaps the socket contacts are not pressed sufficiently against the printed circuit board. In this case, the lamp or faulty contacts are replaced.
You should look to see if there is an open circuit in the circuit connecting plug “D” of the generator and the devices. If this is exactly the case, then you need to look at the “KB” connections.
A lot also depends on the brushes if the VAZ 2110 generator does not produce the required power. They can wear out, freeze, the contact rings can oxidize, then you need to replace the entire brush holder along with the brushes. Oxidized parts are wiped with gasoline.
The terminals of the generator winding may become unsoldered from the slip rings, which need to be soldered or the surface of the generator rotor should be leveled.
A short circuit may occur in the valves, and the rectifier will have to be replaced. If the generator is noisy, it means there is a breakdown - the bearings are damaged; If the generator makes too much noise, you need to check the stator.
But when the generator 2110 does not produce 14.2 V, as it should, you need to start the engine - let it run for a while. In a few minutes, pressing the gas pedal, you need to increase the crankshaft speed to 3000 rpm. Now all functions should work, after which the voltage at the battery terminal is measured.
The voltage at this moment should be greater than 13 V. Other numbers indicate that there is a breakdown in the winding, or a short circuit may have occurred. You also need to check the voltage regulator with brushes; Maybe the reason lies in the oxidation of the generator winding rings.
The voltage regulator is checked by turning off all functions, but leaving the high beams on. Now you need to measure the voltage again, observing what it is now. Your mood will improve if the device shows the numbers 13.2-14.7 V.
The generator may be undercharged if the pulley is just spinning, and under heavy loads it begins to spin.
The normal output at idle is 14.2 V. Use a multimeter to take a measurement, but before that you need to check the input and output. Experienced craftsmen advise taking a welding cable, attaching the minus to the motor, and bringing the plus to the generator. If the result is negative, the generator needs to be changed.
In modern cars, breakdowns of the electrical system are one of the most common. A large number of electronics requires particularly careful monitoring of the operation and condition of the generator and battery, because their failure can immobilize the car. The most common signs of a generator malfunction are:
- battery indicator light on the instrument panel;
- unstable operation of the battery (its boiling over or undercharging);
- different intensity of headlights;
- extraneous sounds from the generator.
If you notice incorrect operation of the car, then perhaps the battery charging current from the generator is insufficient.
All malfunctions of electrical equipment, which includes the vehicle’s energy-generating device, are mechanical (deformation or breakage of fasteners, housing, malfunction of bearings, pressure springs, drive belt, etc.) or electrical (winding breaks, diode bridge malfunctions, burnout or wear of brushes , short circuits between turns, breakdowns, etc.).
Don’t write off a non-working generator: find out if there are repair kits and spare parts. Replace them if possible. If you cannot carry out repair work yourself, then take the generator to a workshop. Many craftsmen will be able to restore the unit at no extra cost and in the shortest possible time.
However, some breakdowns require the purchase of a new device that generates electricity. For example, a failing bearing that is soldered into the generator housing cannot be restored or replaced in most cases.
Remember that failure of this unit can be caused not only by wear and corrosion, but also by poor quality of elements and components; excessive load; external influence of salts, liquids, temperatures.
Why does the VAZ 2110 generator not charge and how to fix it?
If you discover that the generator on your VAZ 2110 does not charge, you should immediately look for the cause of the malfunction, because the supply of current to all electrical equipment, as well as charging the battery, is at risk. Alternator As you know, with a working generator, the battery does not require charging for many months and years , while maintaining at least 60% charge. That is, a battery with a capacity of 55 Ah, which is usually equipped with dozens, is replenished with current due to the operation of a working generator.
Generator types
Most often, the VAZ 2110 (with a carburetor engine) is equipped with a generator 9402.3701. On VAZ the injector is 3202.3771 (with a poly-V belt). But in any case, the problems are the same, we will consider them. Generator 3202.3771
Basic problems
If the generator begins to act up, then the main causes of the malfunction should be sought either in the on-board network, or these are problems with the generator itself. If the generator gives a charge, but not enough, then perhaps it has been “loaded” too much by installing many other gadgets in addition to the standard electrical equipment, and it is already working at the limit of its capabilities. Our motorists really love tuning the VAZ 2110, adding, for example, speaker power, amplifying light, etc. In such cases, some people change the battery, for example, put it with a capacity of 70 Ah, instead of the usual VAZ one with 55 Ah. But although this may help at first, over time such a battery will run out even faster, since the standard generator will not be able to fully charge it , he doesn’t have enough power for this.
troubleshooting
To accurately determine the source of the problem with the generator, you need to perform a basic check. If you do not have “additional” energy consumers, you can immediately look for generator faults; if there are any, turn them all off for a while. Moreover, do not turn it off, but rather disconnect it from the car. Test plan:
Now let's look at all of the above generator malfunctions in more detail.
Weak contact
The contact may become weak if the brushes and rotor slip rings are dirty or oily. Another culprit is shrinkage of the springs pressing on the brushes, as well as freezing of the brushes themselves. These deficiencies can increase the excitation resistance and even interrupt the circuit. Wiping with a rag soaked in gasoline usually helps. Severely worn brushes must be replaced with new ones, and the springs must be checked at the same time. If the rings have oxidized, cleaning them with glass sandpaper will help.
Winding break
If the excitation winding is broken, then there is no charging of the battery. To determine this, it is often enough to place your hand on the generator. When it breaks, it heats up. For an accurate check, you need to disconnect the end of the excitation winding from the brush, connect the battery wires (via a voltmeter or a light bulb) to the terminal Ш of the generator. If there is a break, the voltmeter needle will not deviate and the light bulb will not light up. To find which of the coils prevents the generator from working, connect the wires from the battery to each individually. Finally, check the soldering and coil terminals. If the break is internal, the coil needs to be replaced; for external ones, soldering helps.
Interturn closure
An interturn short circuit may occur in any of the field winding coils. In this case, the winding heats up and the excitation current increases. To determine the short circuit, it is not enough to note which one is heating up; you need to measure the resistance of each coil with an ohmmeter.
Short circuit to the rotor housing
With this malfunction, the entire field winding is closed, and the generator simply does not work. Most often it shorts to the housing in the places where the winding ends lead to the rotor slip rings. They check this with a light bulb with a voltage of 220 V. One wire is connected to any slip ring, the other to the rotor core or its shaft. If there is a short circuit, the light will light up. You can’t go anywhere with such a generator, so you need to either insulate it or replace the winding.
Short circuit in the stator phase winding
Most often, a short circuit occurs when the insulation between the turns in the stator coils is destroyed. At the same time, the generator gets very hot, it does not charge the battery enough, since this only happens at very high crankshaft speeds.
The stator shorts to the housing
As with other short circuits, there is something wrong with the generator: it gets very hot, hums, and its power decreases. The test is carried out using a 220 V lamp. One terminal is placed on the core, the other on one of the winding terminals. If there is a short circuit, the lamp lights up. Repair consists of replacing defective coils.
The plus clamp closes to the body
This malfunction not only leads to severe overheating of the generator, but also to breakdown of the diodes in the rectifier unit. Which, in turn, causes the battery to short out. It can not only be severely discharged, but also fail.
How much should the generator produce to properly charge the battery?
The battery in a car is an important element of the system, which is responsible for providing the car’s on-board network with electricity. The generator is used to charge the battery while it is active. Unstable operation of a device generating electricity causes a voltage drop in the network and failure to restore the capacity of the power source.
Normal generator performance means timely and complete replenishment of the battery charge level, which decreases under load. Checking the battery charge level from the generator is simple and can be done by the car owner himself.
Diagnostics of an automotive energy-generating device includes a visual inspection of the unit, its elements and related parts, as well as voltage and current measurements. At least twice a year, you should check the tension of the drive belt, excessive weakening of which leads to a decrease in the performance of the generator, and sometimes can lead to breakdown of the device.
Diagnostics of indicators such as voltage, current, resistance are also necessary twice a year. To carry it out, you will need special devices - a voltmeter, multimeter or load fork.
How to check the alternator voltage on the battery
The potential difference can be diagnosed in two ways - directly at the generating equipment and through the battery. The generator is directly connected to the power source with a thick wire, therefore, to check the level of potential difference, you can measure the voltage at the power source. To do this, you will need special devices - a voltmeter, multimeter or load plug.
The wires of the first measuring instruments are connected to the battery in any sequence. The plug must be connected to the battery terminals with strict observance of polarity. It is generally accepted that the normal voltage in the network should not be lower than 12 volts. At idle speed without turning on all the electrical appliances of the car, this indicator should be at the level of 13.5-14V. A drop in voltage values to 13.3-13.8 volts is considered acceptable.
At the same time, using conventional testing equipment, you can check the resistance of the generator elements - rotor, stator and diode bridge. Diagnostics of rotary equipment is carried out by its winding. It is necessary to connect the probes of the device with slip rings. If the multimeter gives readings from 2, 3 to 5.1 ohms, then this element is working. The current consumption of the winding should be within 3-4.5 amperes.
Its normal resistance is 0.2 Ohm. The diode bridge is checked by the presence or absence of resistance, the indicators do not matter. The only thing worth considering is that there should not be a zero dimension. Measurements are carried out in pairs - positive output and all plates on this side or minus and all elements.
We remind you that for normal charging of a car battery, the voltage supplied by the generator must be from 13.5 to 14 volts.
Other causes of low voltage
A small potential difference in the system is not always associated with a breakdown of the generator or a bad battery. If the diagnosis of these elements does not reveal any problems, then you should pay attention to the following:
- condition of the battery terminals - connection density and oxidation;
- electrical wiring problems - oxidation, violation of its integrity;
- output contacts to electrical appliances;
- correctly selected energy consumers.
Each contact must be tightly adjacent and intact, that is, there must be no formations (for example, sulfation) that will disrupt the flow of current. Incorrect connection of contacts leads to accelerated battery discharge even when the car is not running.
To improve the connection of the elements of the car's electrical system, it is necessary to clean all contacts and restore the integrity of the wires by replacing them or connecting them and wrapping them with insulating tape.
In conclusion, I would like to repeat that stable operation of the car requires constant monitoring of all elements, and the generator should attract special attention. The battery is charged from it and provides electricity to the entire car system. Pay attention to all elements: generator brushes, slip rings, voltage regulator, equipment winding.
The most correct measurements should be carried out when the battery is fully charged and in various modes. Remember that the manufacturer links the characteristics of the generator to the number of engine revolutions - they help produce a certain current.
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If the symptoms described below appear, carry out diagnostics. You can do it yourself or take the car to a car service. To determine the cause of the failure, special equipment is needed. If you decide to figure it out yourself, master a multimeter tester.
Five possible sources of difficulty are described below:
- bearing wedge (lubricant is used up, sometimes the belt breaks - you will need to replace or rebuild the unit);
- the winding has burned out (a common cause is the reagents used to treat winter roads);
- brush wedge (cause - wear of graphite cores);
- the regulator relay is faulty (this element prevents the battery from overcharging and stabilizes the voltage);
- The diode bridge is broken.
Normal voltage indicator in the VAZ-2110 generator
From the article you will learn what generator voltage is considered normal at idle and under load, how this parameter affects the service life of the battery.
To check the generator voltage, you need to start the engine and turn off the entire load. In this case, the multimeter should show 14.3 -15.5 Volts (see video at the end of the article). A deviation of 0.1 Volt in one direction or the other is allowed.
After this, it is necessary to connect consumers one by one and check the generator voltage.
Ideally, it should “drop” by about 0.2 Volts when you turn on each new load. In this case, the total U should not fall below the level of 12.8 Volts. Otherwise, the battery will be discharged.
To ensure the functionality of the power supply, it is recommended to perform a load test.
To begin with, remember that there are three types of voltage:
- Nominal - indicated in the operating instructions. It is 12 Volts. This figure is far from the actual U value.
- Actual. Here we are talking about the voltage parameter after installing, connecting and starting to use the car battery. On average, this parameter is 12.6-13.2 V (this was mentioned above).
- Under load. Here the voltage parameter supplied by the generator can change.
The presence of a load allows you to verify the health of the battery and generator.
A seemingly serviceable battery with an output of 12 V can drop significantly after switching on the consumers. During the testing process, an additional device is used - a load fork, which allows for an increased load on the battery.
If your battery capacity is 60 mAh, the load value should be 120 A. The connection duration is 3-5 seconds.
We can say that the power supply is working properly if the voltage does not drop below 9 Volts. If the parameter drops to 5-6 V, this indicates a complete discharge of the battery. After testing under load, the voltage should return to 12.2-12.4 V.
If a strong drawdown is detected, it is necessary to check the battery, and then repeat the experiment with the plug again. If there is no drawdown, we can talk about the health of the battery.
To check the generator, you can do the following: start the car, turn on as many consumers as possible, and then take a measurement. The voltage should be 13.5-14 V.
If it is lower, this indicates a failure of the generator. The lower critical limit is 13.0 V.
If the voltage of the car's generator is very low, do not rush to draw conclusions - make sure that the contacts on the battery are not oxidized. If so, rub them with sandpaper.
Important points
The voltage (U) and capacity of the car battery are the main parameters that need to be paid attention to when choosing and checking a power source.
The main purpose of the battery is to start the engine during the period when the car's generator has not yet been connected to work, and the battery is the only power source.
To eliminate operational problems, the car owner should know the following points:
- What does the battery life depend on?
- What should the voltage be (in normal mode, after starting the engine and under load);
- What causes the decrease in capacity during the cold season and other issues.
Let's consider these questions in detail.
What determines the shelf life of a battery?
Each manufacturer, after manufacturing a battery, sets a warranty period for its operation.
In addition to this parameter, there is an actual period that depends on many factors - timeliness of maintenance, compliance with operating rules, condition of electrical wiring and other points.
Due to the fact that battery maintenance conditions differ, the shelf life of the product also differs.
Car owners who use their car only in the warm season have the longest battery life. It's another matter when you need a car all year round, regardless of the outside temperature.
In such a situation, the battery life is reduced. This is also due to the fact that in the second case the driver can cover more kilometers.
The battery life is also affected by:
- Serviceability and correct operation of the generator and voltage regulator.
- Connecting additional equipment with a large rated current to the vehicle's electrical wiring.
- Operating mode. The batteries that last the least are those in taxis that travel a long distance throughout the year. In addition, such cars operate in frequent engine starting mode, which puts a load on the battery and generator. If the vehicle is actively used, the service life of the power source does not exceed 1.5 years.
Under normal operating conditions, when the car owner regularly checks the battery and carries out maintenance, the battery life is 4-5 years with a total mileage of 60-80 thousand kilometers during this period.
To avoid problems, it is advisable to periodically check the voltage of the generator and battery.
But the mentioned service life is not the highest, because with careful maintenance the battery can last up to eight years.
But you should know that sooner or later the battery will need to be replaced, because from the moment you start using it, the working plates gradually wear out. The more charge and discharge cycles a battery goes through, the faster it breaks down.
Practice shows that the key role is played by the generator, its serviceability and current voltage. That is why this aspect needs to be given key attention.