Purpose
This spare part was not always part of the car. We owe its appearance to modern requirements for the environmental performance of cars, and to be more precise, the Lada Granta acquired an adsorber thanks to Euro-3.
(Euro-3 is an environmental standard that was introduced in 1999, but Russian manufacturers were able to meet its requirements only in 2008.)
The adsorber, for which Granta became one of the first “shelters” in the domestic automotive market, is a spare part directly connected to the catalyst. It allows you to accumulate gasoline vapors to prevent them from entering the exhaust manifold.
Such actions allow you to preserve the catalyst and prevent its premature wear, since the combination of a cold catalyst with gasoline vapor is unacceptable. As soon as the engine warms up to the required temperature, the adsorber purge sensor is activated. The adsorber valve drives the vapors back into the gas tank.
What is the adsorber used for?
During operation of the vehicle engine, gasoline heats up slightly, releasing very volatile vapors. Their formation is enhanced by the vibration of a moving vehicle. If the vehicle does not have a system for neutralizing harmful fumes, and primitive ventilation is installed, then the formations are simply discharged to the street through special openings.
This picture was observed with almost all old carburetor cars (which is why the car often smelled unpleasantly of gasoline) before the advent of the EURO-2 environmental standard, which controlled the level of harmful fumes into the atmosphere. Today, every car must be equipped with an appropriate filtration system to meet the standards. As a rule, the simplest of them is the adsorber.
Additional features
Of course, initially, created to create environmentally friendly engine operation, the Lada Granta adsorber, the price of which is insignificant, was underestimated. Manufacturers tried with all sorts of tricks to circumvent this newfangled trend, but the law obliged all car manufacturers who did not comply with this innovation to pay heavy fines.
Although AvtoVAZ has never been known for its large exports, it was forced to take measures to install an adsorber, since it has a small, but still a sales market. Today, the adsorber is installed on the Lada Granta without fail, since world research has revealed the following capabilities of this component:
— reduction in gasoline consumption
A similar result is achieved because the adsorber valve allows gases to be driven back into the gas tank, from where they enter the engine, which, when warm, is capable of processing them. If this device is missing, or the canister valve itself does not work, Granta loses fuel, which significantly increases consumption.
— normalization of the exhaust system
Thanks to filtration, the likelihood of premature wear of the system and its components disappears.
How to get rid of the noise of the Lada Vesta canister valve
On cars that do not comply with Euro 3 standards, fuel vapors accumulated in the fuel tank, and when the driver unscrewed the gas tank cap to add fuel, he heard a hissing sound - this is how accumulated fuel vapors escaped from the tank through the tubes. This phenomenon is impossible on the Lada Vesta.
However, car enthusiasts are concerned about the knocking of the Lada Vesta canister valve. The sound resembles the clattering sound of small metal parts colliding with each other. The dealer and the manufacturer do not always recognize the malfunction of this mechanism.
If you decide to replace the adsorber valve on Vesta in order to get rid of the annoying knocking noise, get ready to work with wires and buy new spare parts.
The purge valve for the Lada Vesta received catalog number 82-00-248-821, its cost starts from 470 rubles. It is connected to a special tube and an assembled throttle pipe (84-50-006-406, cost from 450 rubles), to a damper (82-00-584-324, cost from 230 rubles).
Valve - as the most important component of the device
Speaking about how the adsorber valve works, it is necessary to introduce the device itself. It is, roughly speaking, a can of coal, which is equipped with a valve that allows the vapor to condense and direct. The canister purge valve is controlled by the ECU, which sends a signal to open/close it.
Important!!! The adsorber solenoid valve can create certain troubles for the driver. In the cold season, when starting a cold engine, a certain sound similar to clicking may be heard. This sound is normal, since the valve may not work correctly when cold.
In order not to confuse this sound with possible breakdowns, it is necessary to apply gas control. If there are no changes, you can safely attribute the clicks to the absorber.
How is the valve checked?
To carry out this procedure you need:
- Disconnect the block with wires, and then visually check the condition of the contacts. If you find oxides, immediately treat the contact terminals with special cleaning agents.
- Then remove the valve and measure the resistance of its winding with a multimeter; it should be between 20 and 30 ohms. If a short circuit or winding break occurs, replace the part.
- Insulating one of the valve outlets with a PVC tube will help to avoid a short circuit. Apply 12 V from the battery to the contact terminals; their opening should be accompanied by a click. Then the test will need to be repeated by creating a vacuum in the valve using a rubber bulb.
Features of valve operation
The Grant canister purge valve itself was inherited from Kalina. Thus, the Kalina adsorber purge valve and the Lada Granta adsorber purge valve are completely identical. This allows us to assert that the signs of adsorber malfunction in both cars are identical.
If we take into account the Kalina adsorber purge solenoid valve, malfunctions and their symptoms can be completely attributed to a malfunction of the adsorber of its younger brother.
How to replace?
Replacing this part yourself is not difficult. If there are signs of a malfunctioning adsorber, do not hesitate - replace it. It will only take a few tens of minutes. So, we buy the necessary spare part (and it is inexpensive). We will need several clamps, bolts, and tools. Yes, and don’t forget to replace the hose, as it may also be “broken.”
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According to the requirements of new environmental standards that limit the content of harmful substances in exhaust gases, vehicles must be equipped with an EVAP system. This equipment prevents harmful fuel fumes from entering the atmosphere. The main function in the fuel vapor recovery system is performed by the adsorber. Some people underestimate the importance of this element in the operation of a car. However, a malfunction of this seemingly minor component can lead to damage to the fuel pump and affect the operation of the entire engine. Therefore, experts recommend checking the adsorber valve when signs of engine malfunction appear.
How to understand a malfunction of the absorber
Speaking about the adsorber valve, the symptoms of a malfunction will be fairly standardized, which makes it possible to obtain a fairly detailed description. So, signs of a malfunctioning adsorber valve:
— Constant smell of gasoline in the cabin.
This fact is caused by improper circulation of gases, which may have a certain leakage. Due to the proximity of the system to the air filter, odors freely penetrate into the cabin.
— Valve knock.
Signs of a malfunction of the canister purge valve on the Grant include this sound, familiar to all Grant owners.
(to fix this, you can tighten the nut, or you can purchase a new one; fortunately, the Lada Granta adsorber valve, the price of which is low, is available for purchase)
— Increased fuel consumption.
An inoperative adsorber ventilation valve is not able to control the correct path of gases, which does not allow them to be processed in the form of combustion.
— The amount of harmful substances released through the system increases.
Speaking about how the canister purge valve works and why, do not forget that increasing the environmental performance of a car is a primary task, which can be disrupted if the canister purge solenoid valve does not function correctly.
- Sounds similar to some hissing.
Strong hissing in the adsorber hose, the cause of which is the accumulation of gases, is not uncommon. Since modern requirements for cars do not allow gas emissions while parked, a certain accumulation is acceptable.
— Characteristic sounds coming from the gas tank.
Speaking about the Lada Granta adsorber, the malfunction of which is always characterized by extraneous sounds coming from the gas tank, it must be said that they are the most typical sign of a breakdown. In this case, the adsorber sensor may not give any indicators of malfunction, therefore, it must also be replaced.
Thus, signs of a malfunction of the Lada Grant canister purge valve are quite easy to identify. In addition, they are detected when simply refueling the car, which necessarily requires opening the gas tank cap.
The canister valve is knocking, clicking or clicking
We make sure that the noise comes specifically from the adsorber valve, and not from the timing belt, rollers and other elements. To do this, simply press the gas pedal sharply. If the chattering noise does not change, then the source of the noise is the adsorber valve. It is not uncommon for the clatter of the adsorber valve to appear only in cold weather at sub-zero temperatures.
What can you do about it?:
1. Contact an authorized dealer with the problem. If the adsorber valve is truly faulty, it will be replaced under warranty. If they consider that such valve operation is the norm, then there is no point in writing in support of AvtoVAZ.
2. Advice from car enthusiasts (you lose your warranty!). There is an adjusting screw on the side of the valve, which is filled with glue. Remove the glue and turn the screw clockwise 90 degrees. After this, the adsorber valve no longer clicks in the cold.
If you decide to buy a canister purge valve, then look for it by article number:
- 82 00 248 821 (for Lada Vesta or XRAY).
- 11180-1164200-00, 11180-1164200-01 (for Lada Granta/Kalina)
- 21103-1164200-01, 21103-1164200-02 or 21103-1164200-03 (for Lada Priora and Niva 4x4)
- 8200692605 (for Lada Largus)
Have you encountered problems with the adsorber valve?
It clicks for me too, I don’t think I noticed it before or didn’t pay attention
I discovered it only with a mileage of 5700 km, I hadn’t noticed it before, but it seems like it should be)) gasoline 95 Well, as soon as I paid attention, many people began to notice, for some reason I assume that it’s a matter of low temperatures, in the summer I definitely have Everything was quiet, I listened carefully in the car, maybe the gasoline vapor pressure in the tank is lower in the cold, or the condensation has frozen. IMHO
Well, as soon as I paid attention, as many began to notice, for some reason I assume that the problem is in low temperatures, in the summer everything was definitely quiet for me, I listen carefully in the car, maybe the gasoline vapor pressure in the tank is lower in the cold, or condensation where frozen. IMHO
You will laugh, but I just noticed a few days before your post, I listened to the engine, it seemed that the gene began to howl and noticed clicks, although earlier at the beginning of the start of sales I read about it, but did not pay attention
Forum members, I have a stupid question. on the cap I saw an adsorber, such a huge thing next to the battery, but on the grant I don’t see anything, where is it?
ps additional supply vapor from the tank changes the ratio of the gas-air mixture, but the brains don’t take this into account, especially when evaporation is most active in the heat.
DK will immediately catch this.
and damn, I’m definitely dumb about the exhaust.
How to repair a problem
When talking about repairing the adsorber, the fault should be clearly identified. For example, if we are talking about the Grant adsorber purge valve, the malfunction of which can be indexed by the lack of high-quality gas removal, a new VAZ adsorber purge valve can be a solution to the problem.
The repair of the adsorber valve itself comes down to using a Phillips screwdriver and its application. The procedure for influencing the Lada Granta adsorber sensor:
1) We remove the terminals so that there are no disastrous consequences.
2) Apply physical force and gently remove the valve.
3) We compare the new valve and the old one, because anything can happen in life. Buying an adsorber valve, of course, is a simple thing, but there are mistakes made by sellers/storekeepers who may mistakenly sell an unnecessary spare part.
4) We insert a new valve, assemble this system, return the terminals to their place and enjoy life. The Grant adsorber purge valve, the price of which is almost equally low throughout the Grant sales area, is also a reason for a small, but still joy.
It is impossible in the course of the story about the adsorber not to mention the fact that a huge number of Lada Grant owners prefer to remove this device. There are two reasons for this action:
- lack of desire to repair
— lack of faith in the possible environmental benefits of installing this device in your car
“We treat” the adsorber
If a breakdown occurs, the problem needs to be solved as soon as possible, there are four options to solve it, depending on the features, you can: replace the valve, replace the adsorber, try to repair the valve, remove the adsorber, we will consider each option in more detail.
Replacing the adsorber
On a VAZ 2114, replacement is very simple, you can go to a service station, but if you do the procedure yourself it will take about 20 minutes. We dismantle the spare part:
- disconnect the hoses from the throttle;
- disconnect the wires and block;
- remove the purge valve and purge and separator hoses;
- unscrew the three bracket bolts;
- the part has been removed.
We install a new one:
- We attach a long pipe to the point where vapor is supplied to the blow-off valve;
- We connect a short hose to the fence from the separator;
- put the spare part in place;
- connect the supply hose to the valve;
- install a purge channel (on the engine cover);
- connect the wiring and block;
- place a tube between the valve and the adsorber;
- the work is finished, connect the power and go.
We repair the valve
The valve is clogged due to bad gasoline, before buying a new one, let's try to fix the old one. If a characteristic smell of gasoline appears in the cabin, then the problem is in the valve pipes, they are replaced by simple replacement, and the problem is revealed by a visual inspection, we look at which pipe has burst, buy a new one and install it.
Direct repair:
- We unscrew the adjusting screw, counting the revolutions (it is filled with epoxy resin, it will be easy to find).
- We drip carburetor flushing into the fittings.
- Holding the valve in the open position, we blow it with a compressor.
- We repeat points 2 and 3.
- We put it in place, screw in the adjusting screw to the previously calculated number of revolutions.
Valve replacement
If the valve breaks due to overheating of the radiator, it cannot be repaired; a new part is needed.
The procedure is simple, let's consider it in order:
- We turn off the power to the car and disconnect the KPA plug.
- We loosen the air control inlet pipe, remove it, and move it to the side.
- We bend the fastening, dismantle the valve (remove the fastening no more than 1 cm).
- Lift the valve along the grooves (you need to pull it up).
- We disconnect the fitting, there are two inlets, the first one can be easily removed, the second one will have problems - on the raised fitting, the fixing tendrils are prying up, on the recessed clamp (it’s easy to do with two people, you’ll have to “sweat” alone).
- We install the new adsorber valve in the reverse order.
Removing the adsorber
This is not recommended, but if there is no money (for a new one) and no desire to understand the problem (fix something), it is removed. In addition to the above-described dismantling of the part, three more procedures need to be performed:
- dig into the ECU (reflash);
- seal the pipes leading to it;
- replace the tank cap (it needs a leaky one).
Summarize:
- The VAZ 2114 adsorber is an important part; it should not be removed.
- You now know how to replace a part, determine if it is broken and try to repair it, so it’s better to do just that.
- If you decide to remove it, remember, now the car is environmentally friendly “Euro 1”, later problems may arise with this.
Price policy
Speaking about the Grant adsorber purge valve, which can be purchased today in all large and not so large places for selling spare parts for the Russian auto industry, it is impossible not to note its pleasant price. The Grant adsorber valve, the price of which is equivalent to the probability of its failure, allows for independent replacement and is a simple mechanism.
Thus, maintaining the environmental standards of the Lada Granta is truly a man-made matter. The adsorber has become a part that, in addition to caring for the environment, can significantly reduce fuel consumption and improve the operation of exhaust gas removal.
How to check the adsorber valve
If after checking it turns out that the adsorber is in more or less working condition, then it makes sense to check its purge solenoid valve. It’s worth mentioning right away that for some machines, due to their design, some actions will differ, some of them will be present or absent, but in general the verification logic will always remain the same. So, to check the adsorber valve, you must perform the following steps:
Visually check the integrity of the rubber hoses included in the fuel vapor recovery system, in particular those directly approaching the valve. They must be intact and ensure the tightness of the system. Disconnect the negative terminal from the battery. This is done to prevent false alarms of the system diagnostics and to enter information about the corresponding errors into the electronic control unit. Remove the absorber (usually it is located on the right side of the engine, in the area where the air system elements are installed, in particular the air filter). Turn off the electrical power to the valve itself. This is done by removing the electrical connector (the so-called “chip”) from it. Disconnect the inlet and outlet air hoses from the valve. Using a pump or medical bulb, you must try to blow air into the system through the valve (into the holes for the hoses)
It is important to ensure the tightness of the air supply. To do this, you can use clamps or a thick rubber tube. If everything is in order with the valve, it will be closed and air will not be blown through
Otherwise, its mechanical part will fail. You can try to restore it, but this is not always possible. It is necessary to supply electric current from the power supply or battery using wires to the valve contacts. At the moment the circuit closes, you should hear a characteristic click, which signals that the valve has actuated and opened. If this does not happen, then perhaps instead of a mechanical failure there is an electrical failure, in particular, its electromagnetic coil has burned out. With the valve connected to an electric current source, you must try to blow air into it in the manner described above. If it is working properly, and therefore open, then this should work without problems. If it is not possible to pump through air, then the valve has failed. Next, you need to reset the power from the valve, and there will be a click again, indicating that the valve has closed. If this happens, it means the valve is working.
You can also check the adsorber valve using a multifunctional multimeter, switched to ohmmeter mode - a device for measuring the insulation resistance value of the electromagnetic winding of the valve. The probes of the device must be placed at the coil terminals (the places where the wires coming from the electronic control unit are connected to it; there are various design solutions), and the insulation resistance between them must be checked. For a normal, serviceable valve, this value should be within approximately 10...30 Ohms or differ slightly from this range. If the resistance value is small, it means that there is a breakdown of the electromagnetic coil (short interturn circuit). If the resistance value is very large (calculated in kilo- and even mega-ohms), then the electromagnetic coil breaks. In both cases, the coil, and therefore the valve, will be unsuitable for use. If it is sealed into the housing, then the only way out of the situation will be to completely replace the valve with a new one.
Thus, in order to know how to check whether the adsorber valve is working properly, you need to dismantle it and check it in a garage. The main thing is to know where its electrical contacts are located, and also to perform a mechanical inspection of the device.
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Crankcase ventilation valve
Hi all! Today, I will tell you how to properly remove the adsorber on a VAZ 2110-12. First, a little background. It all started when one day I removed the locker from the rear left fender and saw frayed hoses clogged with dirt and some kind of container, which, as it turned out later, turned out to be a separator. Judging by the condition of the hoses, it was clear that the adsorber was not performing its function, but was just cracking the valve in vain. Even then, the first thoughts crept in about getting rid of this device. Recently, in connection with the transition to DBP, I had to switch to a sports engine management program, in which the adsorber is not involved. I still don’t understand whether the customizer considered it unnecessary to turn it on, or whether the firmware did not allow this, but one way or another, I decided to completely remove the adsorber from under the hood. The procedure for removing the adsorber is not complicated, but there are some aspects that you need to know.
First of all, we remove the adsorber itself, along with the two-way valve.
We turn off the hose that comes from the gas tank and move it to the side. We carefully wrap the connector that went to the adsorber valve to the wiring harness and hide it under the decorative cover of the internal combustion engine. There is no point in removing connectors and hoses, they do not interfere, and if necessary, you can return the adsorber back.
We remove the hose coming from the throttle completely and plug the hole in the throttle assembly. I did it a little differently, to the fitting to which the adsorber hose was connected, I connected the small crankcase ventilation circuit, and plugged the upper ventilation fitting, i.e. I did it essentially like I had before on the mass air flow sensor
An important point, since the hose coming from the tank is now plugged, a hole with a diameter of 1-2mm should be drilled in the gas tank cap. I removed the lid cylinder plug and drilled a hole under it. This does not interfere with the air flow, but will protect against excess dirt.
Malfunctions in the fuel vapor recovery system Lada Kalina
Since the solenoid valve itself is not a complex device, it has few malfunctions as such - it may not open or close when necessary, or may freeze in a certain position. But the culprit of the breakdown may not only be Evap-Solenoid; the gasoline vapor recovery system does not work correctly for other reasons:
- connecting pipes are pinched or clogged;
- normal vacuum is not created in the system;
- due to an open circuit, there is no voltage on the valve;
- the carbon filter is completely clogged (which is rare);
- The control unit malfunctions.
If the CPA is stuck in the open position and does not block the channel, the following defects may occur:
- the fuel mixture becomes richer, causing “blackness” to appear on the electrodes of the spark plugs;
- the engine begins to operate unstably, this is especially noticeable at idle;
- gasoline consumption increases;
- The throttle response of the internal combustion engine decreases.
When the EVAP channel is constantly blocked by the purge valve, excess vapor pressure is created in the gas tank, due to this:
- there is a risk of fuel pump failure;
- The fuel level sensor may fail.
It should be noted that purge occurs in a certain mode after starting the engine, the program is executed depending on the crankshaft speed, and the system does not work at idle. An impulse arrives at the CPA if:
- the coolant has heated to a temperature of at least 75 degrees Celsius;
- the throttle valve is open at least 4%;
- the car is moving at a speed of more than 10 km/h (but this is not a necessary condition).
Problems in the electrical part of the EVAP are detected by the control unit, and the Check Engine warning lamp lights up on the instrument panel. The fault code can be determined using a special diagnostic scanner or a computer with a program installed; the most common errors in the vapor recovery system detected by the diagnostic device are P0441 and P0455.
Checking the functionality of the adsorber
To make sure that the malfunction is related specifically to the valve of this element, you can send the car for a full diagnosis. But this is expensive, so let’s first try to identify possible problems ourselves.
First of all, you need to see if the controller is generating errors, for example, “open circuit control.” If everything is fine, then it will use a manual check. To do this, just prepare a multimeter, a screwdriver and several wires. After this you need to follow a few simple steps:
- Raise the hood of the car and find the valve you need.
- Disconnect the wiring harness from this element. To do this, you must first release the special lock that secures the pad.
- Check if there is voltage going to the valve. To do this, you need to turn on the multimeter and switch it to voltmeter mode. After this, the black probe of the device is connected to the ground of the car, and the red probe is connected to the connector marked “A”, which is located on the wiring harness. The next step is to start the engine and see what readings the device gives. The voltage should be the same as the battery. If it is not there at all or is too small, then you will probably have to look for a more serious problem. If everything is fine with the voltage, then you can move on to the next step.
- Remove the purge valve. To remove it you need to use a screwdriver to slightly loosen the clamps. After this, you can easily move the valve slightly up and smoothly pull it out along a small bracket. After this, the device must be connected directly to the battery terminals. One wire goes to the purge valve (to “+”), and the second is connected to “minus”. After this, both conductors are connected to the corresponding battery terminals. If there is no click, then the valve is completely out of order and it is best to replace it.