Creaks in the cabin can make the most balanced driver lose patience. Let's consider the reasons for this annoying phenomenon and methods to combat it.
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A creaking sound is a sound of a fairly high frequency, usually generated by the mutual movement of body parts and upholstery. The same sound is possible due to unintended mutual micro-movements of the instrument panel parts and the floor tunnel linings. Door trims, ceiling lights, and rear shelves can also creak.
Getting rid of squeaks in the cabin
Once upon a time, when the trees were big, I didn’t understand why car enthusiasts value soft dashboards. After all, the owner doesn’t feel them all the time—and you can’t tell the softness by looking at them.
My very first car, a Moskvich-2140, which I purchased new, had soft instrument panels and door trims, so I don’t remember any particular squeaks. But when, six years later, I changed it to M-2141, that’s where it all started. One day I was picking up passengers - a mother and daughter. So, on one of the many bumps in Moscow in the early nineties, the instrument panel vibrated and rumbled so threateningly that the child got scared, and the mother instructively said: “This is Moskvich, Masha.” Oh, and I was offended! But the woman was right: the car, in an amicable way, should not make extraneous sounds.
Well, now, from the height of accumulated experience and taking into account that the second decade of the twenty-first century is slowly coming to an end, we will still consider why the malicious “crickets” still do not leave our cars.
Of course, even now you hear squeaks mainly either in used budget cars or in models with hard and noisy plastic. Manufacturers of more expensive cars use plastics with a rough surface or Soft-Touch coating, which feels like rubber to the touch.
In cars with high mileage, a nasty squeak can also be produced by the seat, often the driver's seat. Please note that cars that have been in an accident and have been poorly repaired tend to be more creaky. And although an ordinary cricket sings its songs in the summer, in a car such sounds can be heard much more often in cold weather, when the plastic panels are completely tanned - as, indeed, are the latches with caps on which these panels are held.
Ways to fight
with malicious “crickets” there are basically only three:
- go to a professional for service without delving into the details;
- find and eliminate them on your own;
- Turn up the music in the car louder.
If you are a “hands-on” person, then the second method is suitable for you. Let's start looking for sound sources. At the same time, keep in mind that acoustics is a subtle science, and the paths of sound propagation are mysterious. It is not for nothing that sometimes it seems that the front wheel bearing is noisy, but in reality it turns out that the source of the noise is from behind.
Remove all items located in the glove box, armrest, door pockets and all other storage areas, including the eyeglass case. At the same time, check that all items in the trunk (spare tire and tools) are securely secured. Take it for a ride - perhaps the unpleasant noises have already been eliminated?
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Many Lada Granta car owners sooner or later have various questions about the car. Experienced owners have fewer such questions, while beginners have more. Our “Grant Answer” section has been prepared just to answer your questions.
Crunching when engaging second gear Complaints about the crunching of second gear from owners of the VAZ 2181 gearbox have become more frequent. Even the official representatives did not name the reason. The problem can be partially or completely solved by replacing the gearbox oil with a more expensive synthetic or semi-synthetic, compared to the semi-synthetic that was filled from the factory.
The car is under warranty, what can I do with it? Cancellation of the warranty is an action that leads to a change in the normal operation of the vehicle's mechanisms. That is, you can connect the “music” yourself, if you already have audio preparation, without losing the warranty, since you do not interfere with the operation of the machine’s mechanisms. If you made any changes, for example, you installed fog lights or an alarm yourself, then only those parts that you changed and that are associated with the changed parts will be removed from the warranty. For example, if you installed fog lights, then you will be deprived of the warranty only for those parts of the wiring that you worked with, and you have no right to remove the warranty for the engine, gearbox, body and other parts that remained unchanged.
The door frames are rubbing against the seal. Causes and methods of treatment. The reason for the rubbing is the hard contact of the door frame with the upper seal. The solution to the problem will be adjusting the doors. If the paint has already rubbed down to the metal and you are afraid of rust, or rust has already set in, then clean the damaged area with light sandpaper, clean off any remaining rust, apply a rust converter according to the instructions, apply primer and a little paint and varnish.
Which wheels will be the most comfortable to ride on? Maximum comfort on R13 185/75.
Are there rubber seals for the rear windows and windshield and rear window? There are no standard seals, the craftsmen fit the windows from the Lada Kalina hatchback, and the rear window from the Lada Kalina Sedan. But they don’t fit standardly, so different people have difficulties with installation.
Is it possible to install standard lockers from Lada Kalina on Lada Granta? Yes, there is such a possibility, since the arches of these cars are identical.
The gearshift lever cracks in the third or fourth gear of the VAZ 2181 gearbox. The crackling is caused by incorrect operation of the gearbox cables. The case is under warranty, PSSS replaces the assembled cables in response to such complaints.
My door seal has broken, can I replace it under warranty? Formally, no. A torn seal most often indicates a violation of operating conditions and is not a warranty case. However, some dealers are flexible and can replace it for you free of charge.
Can I install an outside temperature sensor on the Lada Granta? Yes, if you have the latest instrument panel firmware. For installation instructions, read our article installing an outside temperature sensor on a Lada Granta.
They say that the metal thickness of the Lada Grant and Lada Kalina-2 is thinner compared to the Lada Kalina-1, is this true? No it is not true. The thickness of the sheet metal remained unchanged and is 0.6 millimeters.
How to remove crickets from the interior? We have a fairly detailed article on this question on our website. Removing instrument panel squeaks on Lada Granta.
In the video version you can hear answers to other questions directly or indirectly related to the Lada Granta.
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It is possible that this will be the end of all the creaking. The polish, once in the gap, eliminates dry friction and the sound stops. True, only for a while. If you want to solve the problem radically, then you will have to dismantle the panel and carefully inspect it. Areas that cause squeaking will be marked by abrasions and a thin layer of wear debris - plastic dust. Now, having seen the enemy in the face, begin the fight. You can stick double-sided tape to the contact point: the connection will subside, but will become conditionally inseparable. By gluing the Velcro halves to the mating parts, we will also stop the mutual movement of the parts, while maintaining the possibility of disassembling the connection. Many sources recommend using the advertised “fungal” Velcro, but it seems to me that there are no such commonly disassembled joints in the car.
Which cars are structurally more prone to squeaking and which are not? Examples are in the photo below.
Front panel of Chevrolet Lacetti
The Chevrolet Lacetti instrument panel is assembled from numerous plastic and metal parts on self-tapping screws.
After factory assembly it does not creak, but after the first disassembly? The Chevrolet Lacetti instrument panel is assembled from numerous plastic and metal parts on self-tapping screws. After factory assembly it does not creak, but after the first disassembly?
Car doors experience stress not only when driving, but also when passengers do not close them carefully. Therefore, door trims may begin to creak even with low mileage.
Lada Kalina and Granta
You can stick a film on all surfaces of the door trim to prevent squeaking. The pistons, having already been removed and installed several times, may also not provide proper pressure to the upholstery, and they themselves may creak in their holes. Such pistons must be replaced. The most radical way to attach door trim is to install one or more self-tapping screws. You should use metal screws, install them in inconspicuous places and close the heads with decorative plugs sold in hardware stores.
How do you deal with squeaks? Are you fighting at all? Share your experience, colleagues!
Sound insulation of the Lada Granta is a special technological process that is necessary to reduce the penetration of extraneous sounds into the car’s interior, as well as reduce the level of noise of various origins. Sound insulation is one of the important steps in tuning a vehicle, which you can master on your own, because things made by yourself are of much better quality. Treating the Lada Granta car with noise-insulating materials gives the vehicle anti-corrosion properties and ensures passive safety.
Video and sound insulation of Lada Granta
How to eliminate squeaks on a Lada Granta Liftback: recommendations from an expert
Creaks are present even in the basic configurations of the Lada Granta Liftback, despite being equipped with noise and vibration insulation. This causes significant discomfort to the driver while driving.
Eliminating squeaks is not an easy, labor-intensive, and costly procedure. Not all owners willingly agree to do this in a service station. In order to save money, car enthusiasts practice doing noise reduction with their own hands.
Read below about how to do this on a Lada Granta Liftback.
How to replace the support bearings of the front struts of a Lada Granta (VAZ 2190)
The upper support bearing is an important element in the design of the Granta front strut. The “supports” are involved in the rotation of the front strut during a turn, and also absorb axial loads and provide rigidity to the mechanism.
The “support” itself is a housing of two cups, inside of which the bearing itself is located, consisting of a rubber separator with balls inside. It also contains gaskets (vibration and noise insulators). The listed elements, as well as the design of the front support, are presented in the photo.
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Release bearing
If a hum occurs when the clutch pedal is depressed, the release bearing has most likely failed.
Accordingly, it is necessary to dismantle the clutch, inspect the bearing and, if necessary, replace it with a new one. Often, then the entire clutch kit is simply changed (if it is not a defect in the release unit itself). In fact, many bearings in a car can become a source of hum. Let us list the main ones that are more prone to this:
- driveshaft support bearing;
- bearing in the transfer case;
- bearing in the drive axle;
- intermediate bearing on the axle shaft;
- gearbox bearings.
And it is quite difficult to understand which bearing is making the unpleasant sound. Therefore, if you could not determine the cause yourself, it is recommended to perform additional diagnostics at a car service center.
Weak points of the suspension
In wet weather it is not always possible to see a defect in the shock absorber strut
If you carry out independent repairs, for example, replacing a ball joint, then you must carefully tighten the fastening bolts. There are no through holes in the steering knuckle to which the support is attached: the bolt is screwed into the knuckle itself. Excessive tightening force may cause the bolt to break. A knock in the front suspension may also occur for this reason.
For reliable and long-term operation of the suspension, it is necessary to comply with the speed limit of the machine stated in its technical passport. Also, regular maintenance will help eliminate the appearance of noise, knocking and deviation from straight-line movement.
Source: carfrance.ru
