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1 Topic by san 2013-04-05 19:13:40 (2013-04-05 19:14:20 edited by san)
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Topic: Resolved: repair of door hinges VAZ 2110
Hello everyone, the driver's door is sagging (play in the hinge rod), tell me how to deal with this. Thank you.
2 Reply from iliaBkmz 2013-04-06 20:49:56
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Re: Resolved: repair of door hinges VAZ 2110
It's best to replace the hinge. The hinge is not expensive; any service center with a competent welder will replace it in half an hour. All that remains is to paint and lubricate it (to make it last longer)
Of course, you can get confused, drill out the rod, choose a new one in size, etc., but it can take a lot of time, it doesn’t always work out and in general it’s very difficult to do this, and not everyone gets good results. So I would suggest replacing. Good luck to you.
3 Reply from roman8785 2013-04-07 07:57:09
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Re: Resolved: repair of door hinges VAZ 2110
For some reason, my passenger side sagged with such incredible play.
4 Reply from iliaBkmz 2013-04-07 10:10:35
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Re: Resolved: repair of door hinges VAZ 2110
For some reason, my passenger side sagged with such incredible play.
This problem started with front-wheel drive eights. Structurally, the hinge is too small for these doors (compare the VAZ hinge with the Toyota hinge), but you need to remember that the hinges need to be lubricated to prevent wear, and since no one does this, they fail (high-quality ones from Ino – suffers the same fate). The reason for everything is moisture, the door hinges are not protected from moisture, but when they get on them, rust is formed, which, when opened, forms and wears out the hinge. As soon as the loop wears out a little, dirt already penetrates into the gap - sand and the wear process increases significantly.
5 Reply from san 2013-04-10 10:52:30
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Re: Resolved: repair of door hinges VAZ 2110
hello, repairing the hinge cost little money, the old rod came out easily (I was surprised), I drilled it out and hammered in a valve pusher rod from a Ural engine instead. Just the right diameter. Well, I also had to adjust the lock.
Final door adjustment
Adjusting a door after replacing pins or hinges is about aligning the locks to the normal level for precise closure of the catch. If you plan to replace them, then it is better to focus on the so-called silent locks. They cost slightly more, but allow the closing mechanism itself to not wear out so quickly. When installing them, you can select any level. They work on the principle of a classic latch. At the moment of closing, they do not create additional resistance, so the door will close even with a slight push. The lock will no longer be able to open while moving.
After installing the hinges or fingers, you need to use a building level to check whether the VAZ door is level.
If yes, you can start adjusting. It is best to do this from a clamp. Everything with it is quite simple - we move it a little higher and towards the cabin. You can do this a few millimeters at a time until the closing force is minimal.
Before replacing pins or hinges, you should determine exactly what is causing the doors to be beveled. It may be enough to just make an adjustment, or maybe you will have to completely change the fasteners.
Before painting the doors, the main thing is not to forget to deal with the door hinges. By themselves, they are almost eternal if lubricated. But who lubricates them? that’s why there are problems (then you find bolts inserted instead of hinges)
Read more: Galvanizing the body of a Chevrolet Aveo
So don’t be lazy, buy a can of penetrating lubricant and spray it on the hinges, they’ll last longer!
And instead of a bolt, I inserted a hardened axle (from some kind of photocopier, a scanner ruler guide, you can get these at office equipment repair shops for almost free)
Having previously made cuts for lubrication and filled with lubricant
I actually filmed the axle repair on video, watch it!
And then I tried on the door trims. The manufacturer is unknown, obviously some kind of cooperative, from the designation - the name of the door trim VAZ-2110L (probably luxury) Syzran
They look good, the quality is cooperative, but tolerable
But the problem with the fastening is that it doesn’t “dance” plus or minus from half a centimeter to a centimeter + the fasteners are of different heights.
More details in the video
And in words - I will install fasteners from the doors of the Passat B2-B4, there are convenient brackets and fastening with self-tapping screws to the end of the casing. And no breaking pistons
And the painting... I didn’t have time to prepare everything today, I was working on Confidence, come back tomorrow!)
The car is already a little over 10 years old and the hinges on the huge sliding doors are already very worn out, the doors sagged and moved up and down a lot. I have often seen on the Internet that it is possible, without changing the hinges, to replace only the fingers and the moving part of the hinge. It is recommended to use Opel fingers, because... they are stronger and less likely to get dirty. In addition to the hinges, I decided to immediately replace the locks, limiters and everything that had become unusable.
It was purchased: - Ordered with Emex fingers Opel 01 32 608 or an analogue from General Motors 90518425 4 pcs - Hinges assembled VAZ 2110 or 2108 (I took 2110 for myself) 4 pcs - Door opening limiters VAZ 2110 2 pcs - Brano door locks (only right , the left one was not found in my city.) 2 Pieces - Silent lock fingers 2 Pieces - Internal door locks 2108 2 Pieces
I didn't want to remove the doors, but I had to because... The width of the garage was enough for me to fully open the door and reach the hinges with a tool. I started with the passenger side.
He took it off and started grinding and drilling out the flaring to get the fingers out.
As a result, after suffering for half a day, I could not make out a single loop. The upper loop stuck in the middle part, instead of spinning, and the finger did not want to come out at all. The finger from the lower loop also did not move even half a millimeter. After talking with my father, we decided to weld new loops. Everything went well. I assembled the loops on Opel's fingers. To prevent the fingers from spinning along with the loop, they need to be secured with something. I made all four loops in a different way. Initially, I wanted to drill, tap and tighten the bolt, but I didn’t have a tap for 4. Therefore, the simplest and most convenient way was a metal screw.
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With the driver's door everything was much simpler. In one evening, I knocked out the old fingers and installed new ones, replacing the middle part of the hinge.
I painted the thing with red spray paint and put the doors in place. The hinges were lubricated with lithium grease. I replaced the limiters on the removed doors.
Next were the castles. The first thing I did was replace the lock fingers. The locks themselves were silent Ptimash ones, but in the vastness of Drive I saw that they were installing locks from Volga 31105, supposedly these are the quietest locks that can be installed. They are sold in the GAZ department. When I bought it, I didn’t notice that they gave me different ones, I only saw them at home.
Arriving again at the store, they told me that there were no left Branos left, only right ones, so they gave me another one. By the way, their prices are different, Brano is more expensive. Okay, I went to other stores, but they weren’t there at all. There is nothing to do, I picked up both locks, twisted them, turned them, in principle there were minimal differences, I decided that I would install them. I’ll say right away that before installation, it’s better to cut down this corner, which is not on the original locks, because... most likely it will interfere. But this is not the case for everyone.
I struggled with adjusting the BRANO lock for a very long time. For some reason the outside door handle was very difficult to work. Adjusting the rods didn't help. I've already cleaned and lubricated the inner lock, but it's still tight. In general, I somehow set it up.
I also had to tinker with the driver's door. There was a strong wear on the inner lock, and therefore it was difficult to press the lever of the outer lock. I bought right and left internal locks. I slightly adjusted the rods and the lock mate and voila, the door opens with one finger. By the way, while I was trying to adjust the lock, I broke it... due to the fact that I did not cut off the corner right away, it hit the mate and the lock cracked, but this did not greatly affect the work, especially since ideally it needs to be replaced with BRANO.
I later replaced the interior lock on the passenger door, but the exterior handle is still a bit stiff.
Regarding the quietness of the locks: The quietest lock is BRANO. Then the silent Gas Ptimash is the loudest, but this is relative to the Volga locks, so it also works quietly.
As a result of the work done, the doors do not hang around and close and open well. The only thing that upset me was the limiters; they are of little use, because... by design they are such that they hold the door only at the very end. By the way, when I removed the doors, I partially replaced the pistons, because over the year the Kalinovsky ones had become loose just like the Christmas trees.
Do-it-yourself replacement of VAZ 2110 door hinges
Installing a hinge for a VAZ 2110 car door
Car doors, like the doors of a house, should look beautiful and reliable, easy to open and close. Big troubles are associated with a sagging door; it is not only not aesthetically pleasing, but also inconvenient. It can make a creaking or dull knock, and if it is not closed tightly, water will flow into the cabin. One of the ways to eliminate defects is to replace the hinges on the doors of the VAZ 2110. The article suggests that you familiarize yourself with doing the work yourself.
Why do doors sag?
There are several reasons that affect the reliability of door fixation and sagging:
- The hinges and axles are badly worn. The door of the vases began to close poorly, and when opening it required considerable force.
How to fix sagging doors
Advice: Before carrying out work, it is necessary to determine the cause of the sagging.
Why the door sagged, a small test can help:
- With both hands you need to grab the bottom of the door and, with slight loosening, check the gap in the vertical plane. Play in the VAZ 2110 door hinge is not allowed.
- The door is grasped with hands from above and below. Then you need to try to turn it in a horizontal axis; there should be no movement of the door, no gap is allowed.
- A visual inspection is made of the places where the door hinges are fixed to the car body on a VAZ 2110 car, the hinges of the sagging door are compared with the same elements of a working one, the differences in them are determined and a conclusion is made.
After identifying the cause of the sagging, repairs can begin. This could be:
- If the door sag due to excessive wear on the hinge axis, it is necessary to replace the pin in the VAZ 2110 door hinge.
- If the entire mechanism has signs of wear or wear, then the VAZ 2110 door hinge assembly needs to be replaced, then the price will be less than installing several new parts simultaneously with heavily worn elements.
After replacing failed parts, it is imperative to adjust the door position. To do this:
Tip: To make the adjustment procedure easier, it is better to remove the mating part.
- The door is closed and its best vertical position is visually determined.
- If the door line runs parallel to the body, and the door itself is shifted down or up, it is necessary to slightly loosen the fixation of the upper and lower hinges and raise or lower the door. After this, secure the position with a fixing screw.
- If the corner of the door, the end of which is equipped with a lock, is located slightly below the desired level, while the door hinges on the VAZ 2110 are working properly, the fixation of the lower hinge is unscrewed and the door position is leveled. To do this, thin metal plates or washers are placed under the loop itself, as shown in the photo.
How can you align the door of a VAZ 2110 car?
You can level the door using a bolt. For this:
- Take a bolt of the same size as the finger.
- The element is placed with its head up on the lower door hinge from the inside so that the bolt hangs on the edge of the hinge.
- The door is carefully closed, and the bolt is clamped inside the hinge.
- The door is slowly closing and the result is visible.
- If necessary, the operation is repeated.
There are repair instructions for sagging doors after increasing the gap between the doors and their poor closing. For this:
- You need to remove the door and disassemble its trim.
- Make a longitudinal cut in the bottom loop using a small grinder.
- The remains of the finger are knocked out with a core.
Tip: When replacing a pin in the hinges of a VAZ 2110 door, you can take a valve from a VAZ classic, which does not have filling inside.
- The valve must be cut to the same length as the loop, leaving a seal at one end.
- A new valve is inserted into the cut loop, with its thick end remaining on top.
- Then the part is welded with an electrode. When welding, you need to ensure that the finger rotates freely.
- The knot is finally cleaned with a grinder and painted.
The most reliable, but not the easiest way is to replace the door hinges on a VAZ 2110. Any option is selected depending on the degree of wear of the hinges and the sagging of the door.
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